Thanks for joining us on Season 6 of The Flourishing Culture Podcast, brought to you by The Best Christian Workplaces Institute. You’ll learn how to build a flourishing workplace culture that drives the ministry impact of your organization, your church, or your company brought to you by the Best Christian Workplaces Institute. Now here’s your host, BCWI CEO, Al Lopus.
Do you see yourself continuing to flourish as a leader in Christian service to age 84 or beyond? Well, today my conversation is with just such a leader. I hope this episode will challenge you to think about how you steward the gifts and experience God has blessed you with long-term.
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What are the habits and practices that you need as a leader to be effective in the long run? One of the keys is self-leadership – taking responsibility for your ongoing growth. As years of leadership stretch into decades of leadership, how can you stay effective and focused? We will address these issues today in our conversation.
I’m delighted to welcome Dr. Jerry White. He is the International President Emeritus of The Navigators.
The first leadership principle is people are what count and we need to treat everybody with respect and dignity.”
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
- Dr. Jerry White’s career (02:19)
- “God spoke to me, while I was in Cape Canaveral, and said stay in the airforce, get a Master’s degree, go teach at the airforce academy, and get training from the Navigators.” (03:22)
- The Navigators is in 112 countries with about 3500 staff and 20,000 lay leaders. (06:38)
- Dr. Jerry White was the President of The Navigators International for eighteen and a half years (06:57)
- Discussing the whole role of space with the new space force. There’s warfighting (11:46)
- What are some leadership habits or practices that have been important to you personally, throughout your career? (13:17)
- The first leadership principle is people are what count and we need to treat everybody with respect and dignity (13:34)
- “In leadership, you have to treat people well and hold them accountable.” (14:15)
- The second principle is to recruit people who are smarter and more gifted than I am and not be afraid of letting them lead (14:24)
- The third principle is functioning as a team. No person leads by themselves (15:08)
- The fourth principle is building a shared vision
- The fifth principle is to implement change effectively
- “How do you implement change? Change either destroys or builds a mission or company. You must have ownership that is much further than your leadership.” (16:38)
- What are some of the practices that have sustained you? (18:04)
- “Purpose is not equal to position. There has to be a purpose that keeps you going.” (18:40)
- “We are significant no matter what age.”(19:57)
- Share about the importance of developing a circle of support and how these relationships sustained you over the years. (23:54)
- Over the years, you and Mary have been through ups and downs in life. I know you had a very painful season some years ago when your son was murdered. How did you walk through that time and still emerge with your marriage and faith intact? (28:40)
- What would you say today to leaders who are in the middle of their careers? How can they be sustained for the long haul – to stay true to their calling and live a life of integrity? (28:46)
- There’s no substitute for hard work. Don’t quit. (28:51)
- The key thing is to be a learner. Never worry about promotion. Worry about growing in both your competence and the breadth of your knowledge (29:47)
- Train up the next generation (30:13)
- Reassess your vision and your calling. It’s not a problem to have a midlife crisis. You have to say, ‘has God called me to this point?’ (30:39)
- What are your thoughts on stewarding your time and energy in this season of your life? (32:51)
- Are there some physical practices that keep you going strong? (36:45)
- Studies have shown that if you don’t have relationships, you will shrivel up (44:46)
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Buy Dr. Jerry White’s Book: Joseph Road: Choices that Determine Your Destiny
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